Thursday, February 11, 2010

Florida Legislature: State Regulators




The Florida legislature is currently considering proposals to amend legal restraints for those residents designated as sex offenders.

Smashed Frog, 2/5/2010:

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(S 1284 and H119) ...would bring municipalities into compliance with restriction of residence within the individual communities and legally define loitering and prowling specific to child safety zones i.e., areas where children are known to gather.

A caveat lies written within S 1284, allowing (in regards to residence restrictions) "...A county of municipality may, upon the recommendation of its chief law enforcement officer and upon a finding of public necessity, adopt an ordinance that increases the distance exclusion for the residence of a person subject to s. 794.065, s. 947.1405, or s. 948.30 up to a maximum distance of 1,750 feet."

Precedent reflects that such a right enabled many a Florida sheriff to cite that very recommendation to many a board of local county commissioners in regards to residency restrictions within the individual municipalities, opening the door to increase in residence law designating where offenders could live, often 1000-1500 feet past the 1000 feet state law.

Leading us back to the very reason S 1284 and H119, is in discussion--to rein in the locals who utilized the state law as a baseline to pass not in my backyard ordinances which effectively exiled persons from living within the communities.

Gateway ordinances led
to heavier law and to prevent such a relapse back into such NIMBY thinking, this blogger has asked Florida legislators to become sort of a legal sober house.

Include a grandfather clause to ensure "the continued residence of those persons currently living and maintaining home within the maximum distance of 1,750 feet is recommended for S 1284 and H 1119 inclusion. As witnessed over the past several years, ex post facto law seemingly does not apply to those listed on the SO registry."

Allow me to provide the perfect example of why those (and their families) effected by these laws just can't depend on ex post facto law and common sense of those in positions to enforce such.

Sidebar. The couple mentioned in the article below were deemed sex offenders by the state of Florida.

WENY-TV News, Sex Offender Law Rescinded (2/10/2010)


WATKINS GLEN -- The Schuyler County Legislature met this evening and voted to rescind a major sex offender law, following a State Supreme Court ruling.

The law in question is the county's sex offender residency law.


But tonight, the law was deemed unenforceable and is effectively wiped off the books.


Legislators first passed the law in December 2008.


It prohibited all level 2 and level 3 sex offenders from living within 500 feet of a school, playground or daycare center.


However, a Montour Falls couple filed a lawsuit challenging the county, after they say police told them to move because of their proximity to a playground.


The husband and wife were both convicted of being sex offenders in Florida, before moving to the Southern Tier.


County Legislators now say their hands are tied.


James Coleman, Schuyler County Attorney says, the combined opinion of four New York state courts thus far is this is an area for exclusive state regulation and not local law passage. Tim O'Hearn, Schuyler County's Administrator says, the state has deemed that sufficient. The county, while not necessarily agreeing with that is not inclined to pursue it at this time.


The State Supreme Court has overturned similar laws in three other New York counties.


Right now, the legislature has no plans to fight the ruling.

The lawyer for the couple did not return our calls for comment.

Watch the video here.


I say we aim higher than inclusion of a grandfather clause.


Florida lawmakers, include the language "exclusive state regulation" within
S 1284 and H119.

If a county sheriff wants power to supercede state law, then the suggestion is he or she run for state office. Until such successful election, the job description of sheriff is to enforce the law as written.

13 comments:

Book38 said...

I can't say enough to the RSO's of this state to encourage you (all of you) to seek out legal council before this bill is passed into law.

Throughout our nation, there have been numerous challenges to laws like what the Florida legislature is proposing in HB 119 and S 1284. The challenges have been successful for the most part.

RSO's (Especially those who have families) are encourage to start now to seek legal council in response to HB 119 and S 1284.

The only way to win is to fight back! We need legal challenges in our courts.

I would encourage anyone (everyone) to offer suggestions as to how those RSO's who can't afford legal council can be represented. The rest of us who can afford a lawyer, needs to start and prepare now for a legal battle.

Anonymous said...

Florida is stupid like a fox. Sleepers and creepers.
Hey Sunny, all the many readings I have given of this I can't believe I never realized this ....
"WHERE CHILDREN ARE KNOWN TO GATHER"
UMMM shouldn't those also be places where THEIR PARENTS are known to gather??????????????????? ?????????????????????/
SO, this stupid ass phrase makes NO SENSE.

And, are children known to gather around vacant benches in the middle of intersections similar to the photos I have sent you???????

It makes NO SENSE.

MY tax money is going to stop some person from being a SHITTY parent by stepping in after the one out of HOW MANY PEOPLE grabs their child????
Seriously.
GIVE ME A RATIO OF HOW MANY AMONG US ARE SEX OFFENDERS.

NAY.

Child molesters.

GIVE ME THE RATIO.

Then keep repeating that one.

Hillsborough County created a law that in a few MILLION person county affected exactly LESS THAN THREE HUNDRED PEOPLE.

It's time to shove some real statistics at them>

Let the sheriffs go back to making money the old fashioned way: Plundering, thieving, beating citizens and sanctioning gangs.

Like in Manatee, Hillsborough, Pasco, Brevard, Broward, Dade, Pinellas and .... Alachua ... etc. (the other of the counties)

Incidentally did you read about judge dean moxley??? SEVENTY TWO PAGES of information on a stalker and he declined to give the dead woman a protective order???????
Judge Dean Moxley, Brevard: TERTIARY MURDERER.

Like McJudge Artemus McNeil JEB666 Appointee... wonder if McJudge Moxley (may he rest in peace as he advised the dead woman) is another JEB666 appointee???

Book38 said...

RSO PARENTS:

This is another reason you need legal representation.

Click on my name above and you will be taken to the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES STAFF ANALYSIS of this bill.

Anonymous said...

Sunny, here is a link to dean moxley that popped up.

He's a BIG TIME PLAYA and left that woman unprotected. Seems to be QUITE A PATTERN here.
http://www.smashedfrog.com/2009/01/brevards-ottis-toole-connection.html

Anonymous said...

Selection will begin next week for a statewide grand jury created to look into public corruption and recommend changes to Florida law — and state prosecutors are asking the public for tips on what to investigate.Gov. Charlie Crist called for the grand jury after a spate of high-profile arrests of public officials and major campaign contributors in South Florida.On Monday, Attorney General Bill McCollum urged the public to report instances of wrongdoing by public officials, from bribery to nepotism to fraud, to his office and its investigative arm, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement."We'd really like to know if you're a whistle-blower or willing to be a whistle-blower,"To file a complaint
Call the tip line at 1-800-646-0444. A form is avail­able at myfloridalegal.com/19thstatewidegrandjury

I bet they'd like to know who will be a whistle blower. Nonetheless it's time to speak up not be chickenshits.

Anonymous said...

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/statewide-grand-jury-nears-and-state-wants-your-corruption-tips/1069908?postCode=201

Anonymous said...

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/14/State/Guilty_until_proven_i.shtml
sunny, did you know about this one? I'm sorry, my brain is F U L L ... anyway .. why can't I find out if judge lackadaisical (may he rest in peace) MOxley was appointed or elected??? What can you sleuth out about that for me??

Book38 said...

I don't want to squash the EXCELLENT information about Moxley,but....

We have an opportunity, "right now", to make use of Sunny's post about the up coming HB 119 and S 1284. These are two bills that WILL SOLVE NOTHING!!!!

Our communities (our state)deserves better than HB 119 and S 1284.

1. Neither bill prevents child abuse (96% of new sex crimes are committed by people who are not on the registry.

2. It will create new issues for the state to solve, because 1750 is no different than 2500 feet. Living Restriction don't work!

Your still not getting Florida Legislature! Sexual Abuse goes beyond social and economic classes. If you want to stop it, go back to the "professionals". They KNOW what works. You don't, and it shows because you keep making the problem worse every time you make a new law.

We have children too!!!!!

Here are 2 articles of interest:

http://sexoffenderresearch.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-likely-are-sex-offenders-to-re.html

http://sexoffenderresearch.blogspot.com/search/label/Fear%20Mongering%20Explained

CLICK ON MY NAME ABOVE FOR A GOOD BLOG POST THAT IS WRITTEN BY A PUBLIC DEFENDER IN CONNECTICUT.

Lastly, get with your attorneys to ask specific questions prior to these 2 bills becoming law.

Anonymous said...

book, I'm sorry I'm so thickheaded. My apologies. Please everyone PAY ATTENTION to the relevant postings. Mine are offtopic and I again apologize.

Magister said...

The language in these bills must be tightened up. Anything left to "discretion" as far as RSO laws go leads to "unintended consequences" up the wazoo! Public necessity MUST be clearly defined and legally limited.
Doggone it, I have begged our legislators to educate the public on the FACTS regarding sex offenses, who is most likely to commit the future ones, and tell parents what they need to know to PREVENT it.
If we educate our public in the FACTS, including true re offense rates, that treatment works, the need for tier levels, what the EXPERTS say lowers re offense, and the incredible waste of funds that could be better spent on health care and education for our children, they would no longer demand laws that have been and are still based on myth and lies. And the really crazy part, the actual mind blowing truth is that if they did this, OUR CHILDREN WOULD ACTUALLY BE BETTER PROTECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another thing that just makes me shake my head in amazement is that these bill’s make it even harder on those men who are just coming out of prison and are on community control or probation. They must follow a stricter residency restriction and one that includes school bus stops. Someone please tell me how this makes any sense at all…..PLEASE. These are men who have the MOST difficulty finding housing to begin with, and are being watched the closest (ah, that is IF they have a home) and who need the support and treatment the most. They have to try to find a job, obey scads of community control and probation rules, and they want to make it harder for them to find housing than anyone else? Hey guys,
IT WILL NOT MAKE ANYONE SAFER IF THESE MEN ARE WANDERING AROUND HOMELESS… GET A CLUE!!!! I guess this brings me to the need for SLA’s and more transitional services. Instead of using the magical NIMBY rule, we need to get REAL and encourage and protect SLA’s and all transitional programs. These facilities are doing Florida a HUGE service and we are not forward thinking enough to realize it.
Since we have pretty much shown that residency restrictions do not work, and cause more harm than good, I can't imagine what a Public Necessity to increase distance would be. I don't remember how many registered offenders we have in Fl. now as it grows and grows but let’s say there are 40,000. Let’s say that 25,000 of those are married and have 2 children. That leaves us with 115,000 people at LEAST who are negatively impacted by a law that does not do anything positive. It could very well leave whole families without homes, employment, security and safety. The 1750 ft. which is a 750 ft increase from the State law now, is a compromise with the devil. We all know what happens when we compromise with the devil.
It is important that these men be able to be a part of their children’s lives. I have heard it said over and over that it is children from dysfunctional homes who are in need of love and attention that are at greatest risk of being a target for a sex offender. Do we really want to create MORE of these children because we would not allow their fathers to be an important part of their lives?
FIRST DO NO HARM!!!

Anonymous said...

Brevard has 2 big cases where people have been found inocent after the men have served many years behind bars,prosacuting attny is somehow involved from way back,but no cover ups ya right. D

Anonymous said...

I don't see rso's getting a fair shake in Florida with elected judges our hope lays in fed court and higher.

Book38 said...

..."a fair shake in Florida with elected judges"

Maybe so, but everything can be investigated. Connecting the dots is a specialty for some investigative journalists!